Easiest Linux to install on WinXP machine?

[N00B to Linux]

Don't support that French-made Mandrake piece of crap.
Get a pure RedHat distro.
Or SuSe.
Or Slackware.
Or Gentoo.
Or anything else.....

lol, surprising such a person survived childhood...

...well, maybe not yet after all...

[who_me_use_seq]

Granted that the whole world is highly interconnected now. Granted that I tend to feel a greater affinity for technophiles in general than any national grouping.

It is still a valid point of view to maintain that the French are a bunch of cowardly self serving cocksuckers and that you don't want to have anything to do with them.

I, for my part, avoid all products of French origin. I had not thought to expand this to software.

The difference between this and that Christian Distro is that the Christians are just too stupid to code anything worthwhile, while the French have been known to produce useful code.

[RavenCT]

I had no problems getting SEQ to work on a RH9 out of the box (or fresh from the burn as it may be)...

I have a question though, which is the fastest or most efficient SEQ (running) distro?

I know Gentoo can be quite efficient, and I've toyed with it in the past, actually right now I have it "compiling" (emerge -u system) at the moment.

Basicall, this is a Pentium 133 (or 200, I forget) laptop (I got networking up and running without a problem), and I'm trying to figure out which version of Linux will give the most bang for the buck as far as the crappy hardware I'm trying to compile this on.

(YES! Flame away, I know this has been discussed in the past, and I'm being lazy asking the question again, but hey, this is good info and not a bad thing to BUMP! )

[Dedpoet]

Asking what distro is the fastest and most effiecient is going to be a lot like asking which is better, Ford or Chevy, Intel or AMD, ATI or Nvidia?

I can tell you first hand that Gentoo is very fast. Even when running KDE as a window manager, it blows away Red Hat 8 and 9 on the same system. Trim it down to something like Fluxbox and it's even faster. Really it's a matter of preference and time investment. I'm sure you could get something faster than Red Hat with less time invested than Gentoo (mostly compile time), but if you have the time, patience, and knowhow, I don't think you'll beat Gentoo for efficiency with Seq. There are distros out there that are leaner and maybe faster, but getting Seq running on them would be a time consuming and possibly impossibel task.

I have seen people on this forum running Red Hat, Debian, Mandrake, Gentoo, BSD, and SuSE, at least. I personally run Gentoo on my own system, but have set up Red Hat for friends because it's easiest and I can do it in about an hour, whereas Gentoo takes a few days to get setup and optimized.

Just some rambling while I watch software install at work...

[fryfrog]

Gentoo I would have to put at the top of the list for speed, especially if you start with stage 1 and tune your compiler settings for your cpu. Next would be mandrake, since it is compiled for pentium (i586) or greater cpus. Redhat is of course i386 or greater. Gotta put debian in there somewhere, but truthfully I never liked it enough to get seq and X all working. Apt-get is > rpm, but I just didn't like debian.

Unfortuantly, boycotting mandrake because it is french just doesn't really make sense or harm them. Actually, you are probably HELPING them by not using it. You don't use any of their bandwidth by downloading their isos or reading their documentation. Added to that is that just like ALL other distros... their individual contribution is quite a bit smaller than what they get from opensource projects. Maybe if you are boycotting mandrake because it is french, you should just go ahead and stop using linux all together... because I would guess that at least ONE person one each of the key portions is french. All it would take is a french person working on the kernel and BOOM you can't use linux, sorry.

You are free to do what you want as its a free country, I of course will make fun of the French for being a big bunch of pussies... but I'll also make fun of you for calling things "Freedom Fries" or "Freedom Toast" or "Freedom Bread"

[Mr. Suspicious]

Originally posted by who_me_use_seq
It is still a valid point of view to maintain that the French are a bunch of cowardly self serving cocksuckers and that you don't want to have anything to do with them.

Had fun burning blacks on a cross this weekend?

Originally posted by fryfrog
You are free to do what you want as its a free country

No you are not, there's this set of rules we have called "the law". Because even Presidents don't follow them, doesn't mean everyone can break those rules whenever they want.

Originally posted by fryfrog
but I'll also make fun of you for calling things "Freedom Fries" or "Freedom Toast" or "Freedom Bread"

A thing that has bothering me with this for a long period now: Did Americans massivelly stopped kissing aswell?

[wfj5444]

I suggest using VMWare on top of WinXP. Then run Linux inside of VMware. I use it on P800 with 384 MB of Ram and its very acceptable for EQ and fabulous for Linux.

check it out www.vmware.com


If you screw up your Linux install you can just delete your VM and try again.

[fryfrog]

OMG "Freedom Kisses" I don't think I could take that

You should take that free to do what you want in context instead of out. Our country DOES support freedom of speech and freedom of ideas, so he IS free to think and talk like that.

[wfj5444]

I find that those who are either scared or power hungry fear those with very different opinions. Many of those people are from America or Western Europe.

Socialist and Communists and people who live in those countries have a fear and utter hatred of America. They claim our country wants to take over the world. Funny that they try to pin that on us when America has shed more of our own blood and tears defending and liberating others.

As much as Europe hates to admit it, without America they would be speaking German and living under the Swaztica. The same people that loathe us for our freedom and our arrogance, would jump ship and come to this country if they had a chance in a heart beat.

Envious of those of us who live in a country that where we can love or hate without concern? We can say "I think the President should be shot, boiled in oil and nuked" and we won't get put in jail. We can espose pure unadulterated HATE not be censored or go to jail or we can do the same with LOVE.

If you don't live in America I am sorry for you, but difference is we welcome you with open arms and defend your right to hate us.

Can your country say the same?

[BlueAdept]

Originally posted by wfj5444
Funny that they try to pin that on us when America has shed more of our own blood and tears defending and liberating others.

Yea the US will liberate you whether you want to be or not. The US has its nose in too much of the worlds politics.

As much as Europe hates to admit it, without America they would be speaking German and living under the Swaztica. The same people that loathe us for our freedom and our arrogance, would jump ship and come to this country if they had a chance in a heart beat.

Actually Germany would have fallen under its own weight. Hitler had extended his reach too far too quick. He didnt have the resources to continue the fight. If the US hadnt helped, Germany would have fallen to Russia. It probably would have taken longer but experts still say the Nazi Germany would not have survived.

We can say "I think the President should be shot, boiled in oil and nuked" and we won't get put in jail.

Actually if you live in America, you cant say that. It is ILLEGAL to make threats against the President and you could be tossed in jail for a long time.

If you don't live in America I am sorry for you, but difference is we welcome you with open arms and defend your right to hate us.

Actually we dont welcome most outsiders to the US. Do you know how many mexicans, haitians, and other nationalities get escorted back to their country because they tried to come to America to start a new life? Ill give you a hint, it is a large number.

[Cryonic]

and how many of those escorted out entered this country legally in the first place? I'll give you a hint, not many.

Hmm, Europe under Hitler or Stalin. I don't think either would have been a good option. Of course, without the US in the war, Germany would not have had two fronts to expend resources on, just one. Britain was almost out of the fight which is why we were designing long range bombers since we couldn't guarantee that they would still be in the war.

[BlueAdept]

Originally posted by Cryonic
and how many of those escorted out entered this country legally in the first place? I'll give you a hint, not many.

True, but it is next to impossible for any of the nationalities that I named to get into the country legally.

Hmm, Europe under Hitler or Stalin. I don't think either would have been a good option. Of course, without the US in the war, Germany would not have had two fronts to expend resources on, just one. Britain was almost out of the fight which is why we were designing long range bombers since we couldn't guarantee that they would still be in the war.

The worst thing that Hitler could have done was to break the truce between Russia and Germany, which he did. Hitler thought Russia would fall easily, the Nazi army was not prepared to fight in the cold and was not prepared for the strengh of Russian army. I as well as many other experts believe that Russia had more than enough resources to overthrow Nazi Germany. If you thought our losses were great, Russia lost 2x as many people fighting Germany. The US/Alliance had to rush to get to Berlin because Russia was going to get to it before us. We did not want Russia to get the information on rockets/jet engines/nuclear information. We were only partly successful on that.

I agree that if the US had not gotten in the war, that things would be a lot different. Russia would have been the strongest country. They would have developed the bomb first and would probably have had part if not all of Europe. I dont know how good a choice it would have been either and think the US did the right thing against Hitler.

This isnt a political arena so I wont further this thread.

[Zeppo]

Hey, how did we get soooo off the most important topic here?
Germany and Russia?
Who cares?
Let's get back to what we should be doing.
Bashing those yellow-bellied, frog eating, bastard Frenchies!!!!

[Zeppo]

I mean, really!
How can we take a country that idollizes Jerry Lewis seriously?
Come on!

[who_me_use_seq]

Not to mention underarm and leg hair on women......ewwwwwwww.

Have you ever seen a French woman with full leg hair wearing nylons over it? Possibly the most disturbing thing I have ever seen on a public street.

Oh and Mr. Suspicious, Finding the French to be comicaly cowardly and annoyingly oderous does not make me a Klan member. If it did then pretty much all Englishmen would be out buying new robes and masks.