networking showeq

[BlueAdept]

Originally posted by fryfrog
---> toilet 1 ----> toilet 2 ------> toilet 3 -------> sewer system

Boy you have an interesting way of grabbing a concept and turning it into vivid reality.

[jbarrio5]

I quite agree, this forum is for SEQ, not basic TCP/IP, I suggest that you go out and buy "TCP/IP Network Administration" by Craig Hunt from O'Reilly.
You don’t have to read the whole book, just the first 3 chapters and the chapter on routing, it's quite enlightening.
You see the problem is that you want something to work without investing any time in learning how to use it. SEQ has been kept hard for that very reason, if you don’t know basic Linux and Networking, you really shouldn't be using it.
If the developers or any of the users for that matter, wanted people like you using it, it would all come packaged in a nice RPM (they are quite simple to make).

Last but not least, use the search button! It works wonders, because what you have been asking has already been answered!

RTFM!
Best acronym ever.

Search Button
Best tool ever.

[coolzero16]

ok i understand it now and i got the basic direct connection to work. i alled midco (cable company) and the guy i talked to said resetting the cable modem so the mac adress will reset could not be done...so i called back again and the second guy said they had to do it manually FROM midco wherever they are located becuz the cable modem was designed to NOT forgett he mac adress..he also said he wouldnt reset it becuz it was obvious i wasnt usingt he nic provided by midco....i asked him if i had signed any contract to use THEIR nic and he said no..then i asked him for his name and employee # so that when i contacted proper authorities i could turn him in for trying to holdme to a service agreement i never agreed to...............he reset the cable modem

now i just need to get this setup to work (internet--->seq/gateway---->windows/other pcs but im going to go do a bit more research since you get a pole shoved up your ass for asking questions here

[BlueAdept]

Originally posted by coolzero16
im going to go do a bit more research since you get a pole shoved up your ass for asking questions here

No...you get a pole shoved up your ass for asking stupid questions or for asking questions that have been answered many times before.

[Gilson]

If you DO buy one of those routers, make sure not to use it as your hub. They all come with switches in them, which SEQ won't work with. Plug your modem into the WAN port on the router, and then run an ethernet cable from the uplink port on the hub to one of the regular ports on the router. If you plug the EQ/SEQ box both into the router, the SEQ box won't be able to see the traffic intended for the EQ box.

[Poncho]

Woot, I think we have our very own "Skater-Gnome" on this forum!!

How do I know? Just "becuz"

I currently am running a P-XVII connected straight to the core of the internet with 100 gigs of pc9000 memory and a 5ft diameter fiber-optic line hooked to my "switch" - why cant I get SEQ to work?

Hey, did you all ever see that golfer with $5000 worth of clubs, dressed in full Nike gear like Tiger and cant hit shit? Kinda reminds me of that.....

[baelang]

Originally posted by fryfrog
---> toilet 1 ----> toilet 2 ------> toilet 3 -------> sewer system

...

what you WANT is for eq to be sitting on toilet 1 and shitting, and SEQ could be on toilet 2 or toilet 3. SEQ can watch the shit as it flows by and figure out what you had for dinner. did that help any?

actually, SEQ dosen't need to be shitting..errr.. sitting on any of the toilets, it just needs to be able to look down into the sewer pipe. this could be through a toilet, through a sink or shower drain pipe, or even through a clean-out cap.


ok, to convert to more "technical" terms, as posted above... showeq does not need to have internet access or even a valid IP address to work. it is possible to set up your windows box with one NIC and the cabel modem as before and still have SEQ work.

cable modem --- Internet
|
hub --- windows
|
SEQ

now, SEQ won't have internet access because it won't have an IP address. you won't be able to update CVS and such this way. all you gotta do is switch back to your origional configuration (move one wire) to download the new files, then switch back to this set up.

cabel modem --- Internet
|
hub --- windows --- SEQ

(move the SEQ cable from the hub to NIC2 on windows, cvs -z3 update, then move the cable back to the hub.)

Of course, don't try this today, cause we just had a patch and SEQ wont work anyway.

[coolzero16]

ok is it possible to also use NIC2 to relay it back into the hub...then use the remaining ports to connect other windows computers?

so it would be like this

cable modem --- Internet
|
|
| |'''''''''''other windows computers
hub --- windows----
| |_____________ |
|
|
|
SEQ

i HAVE to have other windows computers on here otherwise i have to back to trying to get thsi to work

internet---linux----hub----other windows pc's


also if i buy a router and do this:
# (Internet) <--> (Gateway NAT Device) <--> (HUB) <--> (SEQ/EQ/Other computers)

would i be able to set up everything dhcp or would i still have to go through ip masq blah blah blah?

[cbreaker]

It really doesn't even matter if the seq box can get to the internet, is on the same subnet at the windows machine, or whatever.

As long as your linux box is plugged into the same hub as your windows box, on the side that the internet connection is on, seq will be able to pick up the EQ data from the line and do nice stuff with it.

[coolzero16]

i understand that but i need other windows computers to have fully functional internet capabilities therefore hooking everything up to a hub doesnt look like its going to work for me since only one computer will be able to have internet access

but lets sum this thread up im starting to get a headache from it and im sure yall are beyond annoyed with me by now

if i buy a router and do this...

internet---seq----router----hub---several windows pc's

will i have to play with any settings in linux or will it be DHCP?

[h3x]

cable modem
router
|__>hub
_____|_________
| | | |
hub seq eq computer
|
|____
| |
seq computer

2 eq systems static ip
2 eq tuned to the ip and port

not a problem



o yea ALL systems have internet access

[baelang]

Originally posted by coolzero16
i understand that but i need other windows computers to have fully functional internet capabilities therefore hooking everything up to a hub doesnt look like its going to work for me since only one computer will be able to have internet access

but lets sum this thread up im starting to get a headache from it and im sure yall are beyond annoyed with me by now

if i buy a router and do this...

internet---seq----router----hub---several windows pc's

will i have to play with any settings in linux or will it be DHCP?

in that case SEQ can be the router(NAT), and you don't need to buy anything (except maybe a second NIC)

[who_me_use_seq]

Yay, through the mysteries of the NAT shall ye be saved. Questioneth not the NAT, but put your faith in the NAT and by its grace shall ye browse again. The bounteous fields of porn shall open wide to you, and you will know the pleasures of spam in their fullness. Even the humblest of Internet Gateway Routers holds within it the spark of freedom that is the NAT.

[coolzero16]

thats pretty sick h3x

bout ready to give some hot phone sex if you'd walk me through getting this set up

annnyways...i found a few more interesting ip masq. articles and this program called squid that sets up a proxy server for ICS, u guys heard of it? after i read em hopefully they will knock some sense into me otherwise ill be back with some more noobish questions

[cbreaker]

I have one linux box running seq for three, sometimes four windows machines running EQ. Using VNC for access to the linux box, and Session Tracking in SEQ, it works quite nicely. Sometimes there's problems with SEQ crashing when you run it with three people playing EQ on the wire, but overall it works well.

So, no need to have a seperate linux box for each seq, they can be windows machines running vncclient.

Easier to maintain too.