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    Website Hosting Free Version of MySEQ

    Now that the "Official MySEQ Website" has moved to a subscription based system, without giving any credit or renumeration to the original author CavemanBob I have decided to offer support for version 1.x of MySEQ + will endeavor to keep up to date offset files freely available.

    Visit my crap website
    "Come," called the old man, "come now or you will be late."

    "Late?" said Arthur. "What for?"

    "Late, as in the late dentarthurdent," said the old man, sternly. "It's a sort of threat you see."

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    Re: Website Hosting Free Version of MySEQ

    Do you want some space on here?

    I can set you up with whatever you need.

    I hate to see what's happened with MySEQ .. but it's pretty much turning out like I suspected it would. Greed always seems to win in the end, which is why I've tried to keep SEQ as free as possible. I will shut down the whole site before I'd let it get perverted into something like MySEQ has.

    Let me know what you need and I'll get you taken care of.
    The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and riffle their pockets for new vocabulary.

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    Just a quick heads-up. You are missing a few files as part of the source distro.
    1) app.config - missing.

    Also, could you possibly add links to the libraries that are needed in order to build.

    Some of the namespaces being referrenced are not present in source distro and as such the solution fails during build.

    namespace - SpeechLib ( SpeechLib is a Reference )
    namespace - Crownwood ( MagicLibrary is a Reference )
    namespace - DockingManager
    namespace - CP ( FolderBrowser is a Reference )

    Links to where these can be downloaded would be great.


    Thanks,
    PappaSmurf

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    Re: Website Hosting Free Version of MySEQ

    Opps - I just posted the latest zip on my machine - forgot it didnt include the referenced dll's

    I have Added a Support Files Zip, that contains the 3 referenced external dll's:
    SpeechLib.dll
    FolderBrowser.dll
    MagicLibrary.DLL

    Let me know if I have missed anything else

    The Missing "App.Config" does not appear to do anything (I dont have a copy of this file either) - just delete it from the project and you should be ok.
    Last edited by slartibartfast; 08-20-2004 at 05:23 PM.
    "Come," called the old man, "come now or you will be late."

    "Late?" said Arthur. "What for?"

    "Late, as in the late dentarthurdent," said the old man, sternly. "It's a sort of threat you see."

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    Re: Website Hosting Free Version of MySEQ

    Bah I dont have Developer Access to the MySEQ web site anymore - Lucky I downloaded all 10000 registered users email addresses yesterday so I can tell them all about the free version.
    "Come," called the old man, "come now or you will be late."

    "Late?" said Arthur. "What for?"

    "Late, as in the late dentarthurdent," said the old man, sternly. "It's a sort of threat you see."

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    Re: Website Hosting Free Version of MySEQ

    Since the original code of MySEQ was developed under the GPL, ALL SUBSEQUENT work based off of it is also subject to the GPL. If the source code is not made available, MQSEQ2 is in violation of the license.

    He must release the source code to the latest version, and it MUST be publically available. Any further work he does on that branch also must be made available. Unless he rewrites EVERYTHING from the ground up, he's not allowed to distribute MySEQ without making the source pubically available.

    Since he's charging money for it, he can really be sued into oblivion. I doubt he's doing it under a corporate name, and thus his personal ass(ets) will be in a major sling. Cavemanbob has an open and shut case here if he'd like to pursue it.

    Even if he were to incorporate tomorrow, it's too late, as he's already started charging and there is public record of it. If someone decides to pursue... you know, maybe even a certain large corporation like say... Sony... thing will get real, real ugly for him real fast.

    I almost have pity for him... but greedy people piss me off.
    Last edited by Ratt; 08-20-2004 at 10:18 PM.
    The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and riffle their pockets for new vocabulary.

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    Re: Website Hosting Free Version of MySEQ

    Seeing as MQSEQ2 has decided to be an asshat and delete some of the posts on the MySEQ forums, I've taken the liberty to remove his moderator access and restore the posts.

    Did he really think I don't keep backups of the forums? WTF?
    The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and riffle their pockets for new vocabulary.

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    Re: Website Hosting Free Version of MySEQ

    I went over to myseq.net, registered on the forums, and have no problem getting access to the programs, but search after search showed no source code. So, I dug this up.

    http://www.rexpage.com/myseq/forum/f...2037&KW=source

    Which is them complaining that Lax at Macroquest was charging access for a private, flame free forum and complaining about MQSEQ claiming code as his own. Funny, how the hint of money turns everyone into ogres. Hope no one minds if I go over there and fan the flames a little bit.

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    Re: Website Hosting Free Version of MySEQ

    Okay, got the support files off your site. Everything built fine. Got Server and Client both built and running.

    HOWEVER, not getting any skittles. Tried running client locally and remotely, nadda. Been a while since I have ran MySEQ, so I dont remember which ini file the offsets should be in. I have the following 3 ini files in my server directory:

    1) myseqserver.ini
    2) myseqserverc.ini
    3) Offsets.ini

    Do i need to merge one or more of these? 2 of them look like config files, while the Offsets.ini looks like the offsets. Just don't know what changed code wise since the last time I ran MySEQ.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,
    PappaSmurf

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    Re: Website Hosting Free Version of MySEQ

    This is off topic, but actually charging money for GPL software is perfectly fine as long as the person who buys it gets access to the source, has the right to redistribute it, and can modify it and redistribute it as long as it remains GPL and changes are contributed back to the source. It's a lot more complex than that, but the GPL is free as in speech, not free as in beer.

    Now, if you do pay for it, you then have the right to redistribute it. And if you do pay for it you better get the source. If that isn't true, then they are violating the GPL I believe.

    Of course everything I've learned about the GPL is from reading /. so your mileage may vary!

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    Re: Website Hosting Free Version of MySEQ

    Some GPL Faqs

    http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq....cePostedPublic

    Does the GPL require that source code of modified versions be posted to the public?
    The GPL does not require you to release your modified version. You are free to make modifications and use them privately, without ever releasing them. This applies to organizations (including companies), too; an organization can make a modified version and use it internally without ever releasing it outside the organization.
    But if you release the modified version to the public in some way, the GPL requires you to make the modified source code available to the program's users, under the GPL.

    Thus, the GPL gives permission to release the modified program in certain ways, and not in other ways; but the decision of whether to release it is up to you.

    Does the GPL allow me to sell copies of the program for money?
    Yes, the GPL allows everyone to do this. The right to sell copies is part of the definition of free software. Except in one special situation, there is no limit on what price you can charge. (The one exception is the required written offer to provide source code that must accompany binary-only release.)

    Does the GPL allow me to require that anyone who receives the software must pay me a fee and/or notify me?
    No. In fact, a requirement like that would make the program non-free. If people have to pay when they get a copy of a program, or if they have to notify anyone in particular, then the program is not free. See the definition of free software.
    The GPL is a free software license, and therefore it permits people to use and even redistribute the software without being required to pay anyone a fee for doing so.

    If I distribute GPL'd software for a fee, am I required to also make it available to the public without a charge?
    No. However, if someone pays your fee and gets a copy, the GPL gives them the freedom to release it to the public, with or without a fee. For example, someone could pay your fee, and then put her copy on a web site for the general public.

    If I use a piece of software that has been obtained under the GNU GPL, am I allowed to modify the original code into a new program, then distribute and sell that new program commercially?
    You are allowed to sell copies of the modified program commercially, but only under the terms of the GNU GPL. Thus, for instance, you must make the source code available to the users of the program as described in the GPL, and they must be allowed to redistribute and modify it as described in the GPL.
    These requirements are the condition for including the GPL-covered code you received in a program of your own.

    Consider this situation: 1. X releases V1 of a project under the GPL. 2. Y contributes to the development of V2 with changes and new code based on V1. 3. X wants to convert V2 to a non-GPL license. Does X need Y's permission?
    Yes. Y was required to release its version under the GNU GPL, as a consequence of basing it on X's version V1. Nothing required Y to agree to any other license for its code. Therefore, X must get Y's permission before releasing that code under another license.

    So yes, they are in violation of the GPL.
    Last edited by BlueAdept; 08-22-2004 at 08:21 AM.
    Filters for ShowEQ can now be found here. filters-5xx-06-20-05.tar.gz

    ShowEQ file section is here. https://sourceforge.net/project/show...roup_id=10131#

    Famous Quotes:

    Ratt: WTF you talkin' about BA? (Ok.. that sounds like a bad combo of Diffrent Strokes and A-Team)

    Razzle: I showeq my wife

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    Re: Website Hosting Free Version of MySEQ

    You know, it's funny, I can no longer find mention of the MySeq "subscription service" on their website. I think they are starting to get the picture, however, I still can't find the source code.

    Ah, one of the many reasons I enjoy the FOSS community so much.

    *Edit*

    My mistake, they have "changed their mind" about MySEQ being subscription based and set it back to donation based, but will still make their other "new and exciting" products subscription based.

    Still can't find the source code though.

    Monster
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    Re: Website Hosting Free Version of MySEQ

    Papasmurf - You need to download the latest offsets file for the server - I uploaded the latest offsets files to my website.

    Unzip the offset file into the same directory as the server and you should be gtg.
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    "Late?" said Arthur. "What for?"

    "Late, as in the late dentarthurdent," said the old man, sternly. "It's a sort of threat you see."

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    Re: Website Hosting Free Version of MySEQ

    Yes they appear to have changed their minds, for the moment anyway.

    http://www.rexpage.com/myseq/forum/f...?TID=2179&PN=1

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    Re: Website Hosting Free Version of MySEQ

    It doesnt matter if it goes subscription or not. The problem is that they arent giving access to the source code which sill is a violation of the gpl
    Filters for ShowEQ can now be found here. filters-5xx-06-20-05.tar.gz

    ShowEQ file section is here. https://sourceforge.net/project/show...roup_id=10131#

    Famous Quotes:

    Ratt: WTF you talkin' about BA? (Ok.. that sounds like a bad combo of Diffrent Strokes and A-Team)

    Razzle: I showeq my wife

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